Shankweather

He is from Louisville, Kentucky, U.S.

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G.N.O.M.E. Prototype

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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

This is the AP. Your link shows the wrong image and the wrong Quantity.
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

The image in the link is just a CAD render so is it just wrong quantity?
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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

In this case, the AP and production piece are night and day. The AP is made of resin (it's super heavy), the production is vinyl. The AP is limited to 50, the production to 500 each. The production pieces will have a more detailed paint job. For example, you can see in the pic in your link that the eyes have some detail painted on them. The AP doesn't have that, they're just solid green. I think they're sufficiently different that the AP deserves its own listing.
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

I agree with fliphappy here. APs are pretty much the same as production figures. Regarding to this particular figure – I read somewhere that accessories of this figure are made of resin, and the figure is vinyl.
Anyway, I don't think there should be 2 different entries for this figure, if there aren't any significant differences between this AP and the final production figure.
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

Shankweather may be right but the "production" version hasn't come out yet. Its clear, even from images that they are using the same base body as the Dr Brain. I gather they plan to release a full vinyl at some point.

I would love a full vinyl, it would save on shipping :P

Either way, this entry is still a dupe, it would be nice to get a better image and not use the early CAD render on the original entry.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

The production figure will be vinyl with resin pieces. The AP is 100% resin. I know because I've got one and it's solid as a rock and weighs a ton. If it's vinyl it's the heaviest, hardest vinyl ever.

The picture I used is just a picture of the RAJE Toys display at the NYCC. How is that a CAD drawing? And no, the words "Artist's Proof" don't appear in the photo, but since it's a picture of the RAJE Toys booth at the NYCC where they sold the Artist's Proof, it seems like a safe bet.

The picture in the original link isn't a picture of anything. It doesn't match the AP and it doesn't match the production. What is it claiming to be, the AP or the production?

The AP is limited to 50, the production is limited to 500. If that's not a significant difference, I don't know what is. The 50 APs are not just a subset of the 500. They are a totally separate thing.
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jazzydan

499 646 2538

13 years ago

Just spoke to Rich (the R from RAJE Toys), and got this...

"These are actually prototypes and the manufacture will change on final production. Due to the sculpt of the figure some parts will be resin but the majority of it is vinyl."
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

@Shankweather – The picture in the original entry (http://rotocasted.com/toy/8820/) is a CAD drawing, not your photo. It will be replaced, once a good picture of a final production figure is revealed.

My opinion is that APs/protos shouldn't be separated from production figures' entry.
AP is an exact copy of the final version, that's gonna be produced. It's made so an artist can approve everything (sculpt,paintwork, etc.) before the figure is mass produced.

Also, as jazzydan clarified, it's not an AP, but a proto, that RAJE had decided to sell at the NYCC.
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

To clarify, the CAD rendering is the picture on this entry: http://rotocasted.com/toy/882... />
The main question is: are are both entries the same release version of this toy?
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

@jazzydan - Can you ask Rich how do they call this version fo G.N.O.M.E?
It's obviously not an AP, and RIch says it differs from the final production figure, but this figure was produced in quantity of 50, so it's kind of a production figure, but not a final version.
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

@CoMus - According to what jazzydan wrote, it's not the same.
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

I think this is a unique situation.

RAJE want to release their toys to their fans ASAP (which is great) so they produce a resin cast (that they can produce in their own workshop) rather than the lengthy turn around on the vinyl production.

I would still call something like this an artist proof as they are giving it a tick to be made from vinyl. Yet there will also be a proof from the first vinyl run.

As stated some parts will still be resin is either due to manufacturability.
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

It's a unique situation indeed. But I don't see how this version is an AP... Let's call it – 'Pre-release version', or something similar :)
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

@vadimt I have a feeling they are the same version, I blame jargon for this "mixup"

As they are using the Dr Brain body base, they may have made a mix? Had some with the vinyl base and then ran out and made some with a resin cast base? If someone has the Brain fig, it would be interesting to know if you can take off all the parts to just have the body.
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

My understanding of "AP (Artist Proof)" – it's a first run of production figure, which is made for the artist to approve quality, so the mass production can be started.
Production stages before the 'AP stage' are called proto. At this stage, the figure is cast in resin, different paintworks are tried, etc.
Protos aren't being sold to collectors, and not even being shown to anyone, except the artist.

It's not an "AP", because apparently RAJE say the final version will be different from this one, so it's kind of a unique proto, which was produced in mass quantity and sold to collectors.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

I called it an Artist's Proof just because that's what I was seeing it called online. Changing the title to "Prototype" now...
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

@Shankweather – Do you have a better photo of this figure?
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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

I have a photo of mine, it's not the greatest. I'll put it up.
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

@Shankweather – Thanks. Can you send me a better (high-res) photo of the figure? I'll remove the background.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

Sure! I'd do it myself with my very powerful Paint.NET software, but I'll leave it to the pro. How can I get it to you?
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

vadimts (at) gmail.com
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

I wanna play with this guy even more after seeing your picture! I will get the production version when it comes out for sure!
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jazzydan

499 646 2538

13 years ago

I could ask Rich if I could borrow his prototype and take some high quality shots.
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

Photo is updated.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

How do you get rid of the background so nicely like that? Also, how do you edit a listing that you didn't post?
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

1. Photoshop
2. I'm one of the moderators here (I can edit details, incl. pics)
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

There are so many elements that can effect production cost. It all depends on the tooling and manufacturing processes used, without talking with them, we wouldn't know.

I think its a case of turn around time, they wanted to produce something for NYCC.

On this piece (as there are many components) a production of 50 would cost more to produce in vinyl than resin. Vinyl would be much cheaper if the production was 500.

Vinyl would cost more initially to produce due to high tooling, labour and shipping costs. It is also dependant on their manufacturers as they might have to order a minimum production. So the resin release might be to get funds for full production?

For a small run, resin cast would be cheaper as it has low end tooling costs, cast in house with no use of heavy machinery. The material itself would cost more. Its its a chunky piece, the production costs may be very similar on a small run.

Another reason why they may be doing a resin release is to test their tooling design before mass production, cutting out expensive hiccups on potential tooling problems.

There are so many areas I can think of that would effect the cost, my guesses are all stabs in the dark. Only the Raje Toys guys would know and I gather they wouldn't go into costing analysis details :P
jeffers

292 67 2

13 years ago

@vadimt: since you are the moderator, can you make this site with friend section...also forum section so we can talk more about designer toys. thanks :)
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jazzydan

499 646 2538

13 years ago

jeffers jeffers, is that a hyperdrive reference?
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Vadim

777 516 471

13 years ago

@jeffers, I'm just a moderator, (if you can call that an ability to edit/update entries), not a creator of rotocasted.
But, you can request features here – http://getsatisfaction.com/ro..., and I'm sure Sergey (he's the creator of rotocasted.com), will respond to your request.
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CoMus

171 468 619

13 years ago

+1 for Hyperdrive
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jazzydan

499 646 2538

13 years ago

See the chase here...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jazzydan/sets/72157625446212859/with/5249595765/
globalplaz

46 5 3

12 years ago

I look for gnome prototype to sell... any offers?
Thanks

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Greasebat - Red NYCC Exclusive

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ToyPunkJan

1881 1896 2109

12 years ago

During the mid-eighties neo-rockabilly craze lots of young men were putting pomade in their hair and getting fresh tattoos. All this petroleum waste from hair pomade, mixed with peeling skin from tattoos, combined to line sewer pipes deep under the streets. A jolt of radiation from a black market Russian nuclear device in 1995 gave life to a bubbling mass of hair, pomade and skin cells.

The result, born in 2005...Greasebat. It is unknown if Greasebat is good or evil, he seems to be attracted to industrial areas, usually chemical plants. He clumsily destroys everything with his short legs and poor vision from separately rotating eyes. He has been observed eating barrels of heavyweight motor oil and old stock vinyl for pressing records.

He can fly short distances and is a ferocious fighter who will use anything within reach to defeat his opponent. His oddly shaped body is covered in thick armored scales, and his head with bulbous jelly like pustules.
ullar77

114 20 104

12 years ago

If anyone is selling one of these hmu on kidrobot, I'm ullar77 there.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

Ha! Yeah, me too.
TheBlotSays

239 158 124

12 years ago

hahaha Me too!!! (well actually I don't own one but if I could trade a painted red RFGB for a SDCC Black I'd be buying one as we speak)
Chauskoskis

8 15 12

12 years ago

hahaha no one is going to trade the black one any other you will need to make a big offer to get the black one... and still will be hard.
ullar77

114 20 104

12 years ago

I finally scored this guy!

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Ken For President

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doc18

1593 19 280

13 years ago

Mini King Ken Series 2 chase (^_^)b
thejennbot

214 187 6

12 years ago

w00t! Love this guy.
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ToyPunkJan

1881 1896 2109

12 years ago

That tricolore, orange, white, blue...what country is it?
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

Visa?
J_Walrus

51 9 368

12 years ago

Holland?
J_Walrus

51 9 368

12 years ago

http://flagspot.net/flags/nl_...

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Gohst

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jazzydan

499 646 2538

12 years ago

were these sold separately? as well as part of this set

http://rotocasted.com/toy/11897

or am I missing something?
J_Walrus

51 9 368

12 years ago

I think they were only sold as a set.

But once again, some peeps might only buy the part of the set and want it here separately. I think this is the case with this one also.
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jazzydan

499 646 2538

12 years ago

Personally I think stuff should stay as sets (at least on the site), just my 2 cents. Must be pretty rare occurrence for people to own part of a set.

What do the other Mods think?
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

Similar issue with M5 Bravo and Stee-Gar. One set is listed separately, the other two are just sets. Should at least be the same for all three.
MisterQuiche

185 83 831

12 years ago

i will tidy the m5 bravo tomorrow, my personal feeling is sets shud be kept as sets, but hey, im a jerk!

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Gi Yo! - Duchess, Pestro, Corporal Slither

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aargh

135 146 111

12 years ago

looks like 7-year old boy trying to make him gijoe toys from playdoh.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

Yeah but it's ironic, so that means it's really good.
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aargh

135 146 111

12 years ago

when irony vs. skills the skills always win it for me

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Kaws x Pushead Companion - Bronze

coab

370 50 21

13 years ago

one day it will be mine :)
saucemoola

85 13 6

13 years ago

AWWW one if the best kaws pieces ever
saL

44 8 22

12 years ago

guys, I've decided to sell my bronze, so let me know if anyone is interested (I've put the post up on EB, KR, Banksy, etc)...
saL

44 8 22

12 years ago

guys, I've decided to sell my bronze, so let me know if anyone is interested (I've put the post up on EB, KR, Banksy, etc)...
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SillyK

154 1426 1657

12 years ago

i think, we got it the first time, sal ;)

:P
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amavevera

326 75 1144

12 years ago

it's a bug, I am sure Sal is not selling 8 Pusheads :-P
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ToyPunkJan

1881 1896 2109

12 years ago

Pardon?
BoxingXius

18 9 294

12 years ago

I was wondering if by any chance someone here on Rotocasted has decided to sell their bronze?
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amavevera

326 75 1144

12 years ago

lol
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SillyK

154 1426 1657

12 years ago

oh rotocasted, you make me smile :D
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

Now I think he's just messing with us.
saL

44 8 22

12 years ago

holly s**t!... Im so sorry about this spam everyone.. I guess I did click "Submit" one to many times, but it never worked.. until now...

sorry about this super spam everyone!..
saL

44 8 22

12 years ago

I need to sell this quick, so I lowered the price to $1800 + shipping!
TonyStark

50 18 43

11 years ago

This is by far the best collabo Kaws has ever done. Any of the pushead colors, the figure is genius.

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Pinocchio & Jiminy Cricket

Lee

2 4 54

13 years ago

Where can you buy these cool guys?
Toasted678

220 48 8

13 years ago

They were for 'Pre-Order' on Toyqube. It says Check Back Later now...
http://www.toyqube.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TOYQUBE&Product_Code=4887&Category_Code=76
Lee

2 4 54

13 years ago

Thanks:)

would be good to get one of these before the ebay rip off begins!
hR

72 77 44

13 years ago

OriginalFake lineup/ lottery starts today. And it looks like a shop called Invincible is doing the same lottery sale in Taiwan. Also today. Anybody know any place else that's going to have it?
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hu8o

850 1828 327

13 years ago

Some stores that carry OriginalFake apparel will carry the set too.
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sergeySafonov

801 2515 1650

13 years ago

Barenomore.com will have them, but I guess it's already sold out by preorders there.
Lee

2 4 54

13 years ago

Thanks again toasted678 for the link. I have just checked back and managed to pre-order a set.

Joust found out they are 400% and 100%. Anyone know the edition run?
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hu8o

850 1828 327

13 years ago

Should be 500 as usual.
hR

72 77 44

13 years ago

Could be 1000 though. Other Kaws pieces have been in runs of 1000. Plus Disney is involved, so it might be larger than normal.
Lee

2 4 54

13 years ago

Not sure about the partnership with Disney. its not the same if you ask!
EN

91 45 5

13 years ago

I want to know if anyone thinks this would be worth dropping 400-500 bones on in terms of re-sale value. Anyone got an opinion?
SpecialKAC18

145 111 34

13 years ago

Haha why, are you buying it to sell it?
EN

91 45 5

13 years ago

No, not at all I was just wondering. I'm sure if I got my hands on one of these it wouldn't leave them.
SpecialKAC18

145 111 34

13 years ago

$400 is a good deal as these skyrocketed in value. $500 isn't a steal but I've seen them break the $600 mark on several occasions. Hold out for one that's going up on auction on eBay and you should be able to land one for under $500.

I think the price has more or less settled in the short term but will continue to rise.
EN

91 45 5

13 years ago

Yeah, I noticed that on the listings I did see. I definitely will hold out. Thanks for the advice!
sampersand

41 297 15

13 years ago

if I ever get my hands on these ones, i'm buying a http://us.123rf.com/168nwm/ti... and hang it at the ceiling of my livingroom !!!
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

So I bought a Pinocchio off the KR forums and the guy sent me a box full of rocks. Beware cravetoys69 aka Noah Curtis aka twiztidranger87@yahoo.com.
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kittenpotpie

683 67 183

12 years ago

@shankweather What an a-hole. He's online right now on the KR boards (you have to be logged in to see)
http://forums.kidrobot.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=92094&sid=f1c330e91c967df482cb7d91df8d0042

BTW he still has "Shankweather" listed as a "Good Deal" on his KR profile.
J_Walrus

51 9 368

12 years ago

Hope the whole deal ends well for you Shankweather!

What a nasty and tasteless thing to do on a brilliant forum.. :/
ADB

61 17 116

12 years ago

Sorry to hear that Shankweather!
Kick his ass if you can!!
ADB

61 17 116

12 years ago

Oops ^^
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lordsketch

381 1089 1433

12 years ago

wow. I'd be really pissed if someone scammed me like this, but the guys on the boards are brutal!
I really hope you get your toy, Shank, and that this guy will deal with whatever problem he has!
it's sad really. I tend to believe him about the drug problem because if he thought for two seconds he would figure out you can single him out on the boards, and at least he stepped up.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

Pinocchio and Jiminy are here now. Maybe an admin can delete all these comments now. These toys shouldn't be sullied with such ugliness!
coolminifigures

15 23 15

12 years ago

This is one of my favorits ever! Kaws rocks!
www.coolminifigures.com

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Mini Smogun - Hawaii

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ToyPunkJan

1881 1896 2109

12 years ago

That knitted sweater...could it be ...TIRES??
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Shankweather

432 4 822

12 years ago

Yes of course they're tires! Not a turtleneck!

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Lucha Bear - SDCC 2010

huaynoamargo

157 368 20

11 years ago

i want it
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Shankweather

432 4 822

11 years ago

Alright man, click on yonder Shankweather link and you will be whisked away on my magical email mystery express!

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Sketchup

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fragmentedm

179 307 49

13 years ago

if anyone is interested in this, please comment. i'm open to trading or selling. thanks!
elissa_s

388 689 743

13 years ago

I read somewhere the other day about a spelling mistake on this dunny, and I've just received this in the post and found the error. It's on the squirty ear (?) - 'A unique combination of the freshest ingredients for that full OG Freshness that you EXCEPECT in a ketchup'. Shame on you Kidrobot. SHAME ON YOU!
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bones

132 689 26

13 years ago

Wow elissa that is some sherlock holmes shit you just pulled there! : )

I just grabbed my dunny and checked it out. As a copywriter, I'm absolutely stunned that KR don't have the sense to pay an edit monkey a few bananas for some proofing.
elissa_s

388 689 743

13 years ago

I know, right? I love the English language, and I proof read at work (work at a printers, we print things like leaflets, letterheads, etc etc.) and I can spot a mistake a mile off. I find it ridiculous that such a big company wouldn't check it. Shows lack of professionalism tbh.
kado0o

111 176 16

13 years ago

I emailed the artist and he said it was a little joke
Zukaty

171 76 53

13 years ago

nuff said ;)
elissa_s

388 689 743

13 years ago

Too right, I don't believe that that's a joke.
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Shankweather

432 4 822

13 years ago

I'm a giant failure at everything I do, but it's OK because I was just joking.
Hobbes

40 12 6

12 years ago

I have about 3 of these for trade
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Irit

292 166 96

12 years ago

Hobbes, what would like to trade for?
Hobbes

40 12 6

12 years ago

Any dunny I don't already have. As long as it's in New condition. Mine are.
ImAFatCat

129 25 10

12 years ago

Hobbes, do you still have another up for trade?
spenc

68 78 13

12 years ago

best common out of 2010
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jazzydan

499 646 2538

12 years ago

agreed
woods

99 88 12

12 years ago

also agreed. love it!

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