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  • monsterforge

    monsterforge

    279 125 209

    4 years ago

    Glorious!!!!

  • Arb

    Arb

    358 0 24

    4 years ago

    :)

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Mongolion - Lucky Bag '11
  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    4 years ago

    Should there be a differentiation between vinyl and japanese vinyl?

  • jenX

    jenX

    774 80 725

    4 years ago

    No, I don't think so.

  • kittykittymeow666

    kittykittymeow666

    10 183 627

    4 years ago

    i thought it was called 'sofubi'?

  • AgentRavage

    AgentRavage

    404 139 55

    4 years ago

    There definitely is quality wise :P

  • Lowbrownie

    Lowbrownie

    256 379 84

    4 years ago

    I think the differentiation between vinyl and Japanese vinyl is just fine. It's easier for people who want to search for a specific type of figure and in my opinion it can be considered a different material: it's not just usually lighter, glossier and has more details, but the manufacturing process and even the ingredients vary slightly (Jap vinyl is unhealthier, yay).

    The only thing one could merge would be Japanese vinyl, soft vinyl and sofubi, which is basically the same (but would be kind of a lot of work and I don't know if it would make sense to do so).

  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    4 years ago

    I'm happy with the above classification if everyone agrees. Could take a lot of tag updating though :)

  • ToyPunkJan angel

    ToyPunkJan

    1885 1887 2112

    4 years ago

    Yes, I agree with LB. There certainly is a difference. Take one of your Dunnys in one hand and one of your Pocket Mummy Boys in the other. No comparison. Japan stuff has the feeling. Dunnys seem "dead".
    Why else would an esteemed company like S7 choose to have their toys entirely produced in Japan?
    Obviously there is a difference. But LB is right, Japanese vinyl, soft vinyl and sofubi is more or less the same.


    Actually you'll find Japanese and Sofubi under "Type" tag as well.


    I suggest we keep one entry for Type: Sofubi.
    And one entry for material: Soft Vinyl.

    That way we have both

    Just one thing; we mods have to keep our eyes peeled when new uploads are coming in. But it isn't that a big thing.

    (OK, I see Dan was faster, than I was :) )

  • Shankweather angel

    Shankweather

    398 4 821

    4 years ago

    I don't think sofubi is a type. Sofubi just means "soft vinyl." I think a Mummy Boy is just a designer toy. I think the material should be sofubi and the type should be whatever is appropriate, usually designer toy or kaiju.

  • ToyPunkJan angel

    ToyPunkJan

    1885 1887 2112

    4 years ago

    I think Shank actually nailed it pretty precise here...

    Certainly there's a difference between designer toys and kaijus.

    Everybody happy?

  • Shankweather angel

    Shankweather

    398 4 821

    4 years ago

    If you google the name of the toy and a bunch of stills from old Japanese movies show up, it's a kaiju.

  • ToyPunkJan angel

    ToyPunkJan

    1885 1887 2112

    4 years ago

    Err.. but aren't they called "sofvi" now...? Maybe we should reconsider the whole thing?? ;O/

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    4 years ago

    I think the type should be removed all together or just a ‘family’ term: vinyl/plush/resin/3D printed

    As so many designers/stores/collectors are referring to Japanese made vinyl as Sofubi now, I think the material for all should be changed to sofubi.... then again, it might all be called 'Super Flexible Magical Plastic' next year so you'll have to change it all over again.

    Sofvi/sofubi/japanese vinyl = all the same thing. You can get soft vinyl out of China though.

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Migora - Painted
  • jenX

    jenX

    774 80 725

    4 years ago

    Lovely colours.

  • auryn angel

    auryn

    483 56 278

    4 years ago

    Aw...now I really need to paint a couple of my little unpainted fellas like this. I love it!

  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    4 years ago

    lush colours, seconded Jen :)

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FrankenGhost - 'Super7 - Luckybag'
  • zombiekel angel

    zombiekel

    781 92 496

    4 years ago

    It took a while but finally got one to complete the full set of 10

  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    4 years ago

    congrats! looking forward to seeing the collection tonight man! Shall I bring the camera?

  • zombiekel angel

    zombiekel

    781 92 496

    4 years ago

    Dan - yeah man, go for it! See you soon ;)

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Caveman Dinosaur - Prehistoric Punch, SDCC 2013
  • kittenpotpie angel

    kittenpotpie

    682 67 183

    4 years ago

    Sold out at Comic Con by Thursday morning :-(

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Yama
  • MaquetteCity angel

    MaquetteCity

    154 128 400

    4 years ago

    Very pretty,nice artwork too. :)

  • auryn angel

    auryn

    483 56 278

    4 years ago

    ...and sold in less than one second :) And I thought I was fast! Oh well...

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Dealmaker - Clear Envy, SDCC 2013 Dumbrella Exclusive

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Mousemask Murphy (Biohazard) Mintyfresh Exclusive

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Yoshimitsu
  • Ral

    Ral

    16 67 34

    4 years ago

    Japan's master artist Takeya's rendition of Tekken's Yoshimitsu. There is just soo much details!

  • J45067

    J45067

    129 313 50

    4 years ago

    One of my all time favorite sculptors!

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Spray 2-V2
  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    7 years ago

    How do I put this in the custom section?

  • sergeySafonov angel

    sergeySafonov

    792 2073 1604

    7 years ago

    Type should be "Custom". Is it really a custom?

  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    7 years ago

    Well its a limited run of 1 offs hand made by the sucklord. So I'd say yes. Shall we see what the general consensus is?

    http://toysrevil.blogspot.com/2010/07/custom-bootleg-release-spray-2-v2-by.html

  • turdhole

    turdhole

    129 102 1

    7 years ago

    custom? that's a tough one. i have 1. i consider it a one off but there are a couple similar. im stumped

  • Vadim angel

    Vadim

    777 516 471

    7 years ago

    I wouldn't say it's a custom. It's an original figure by Sucklord, not something he customized.

  • sergeySafonov angel

    sergeySafonov

    792 2073 1604

    7 years ago

    I don't think it's a custom, really.

  • spankystokes

    spankystokes

    411 3 5

    7 years ago

    Not a custom.

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    A custom would be anything that used another figure as a platform imo and not officially released through the original creator as part of an official series or exclusive release.

    Are the legs/body re-casted from R2-D2? If so, then this would be a custom.

    "Mashups" are customs too.

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    BTW how does he get away with his "bootleg" ways, its his charm but its an interesting standpoint.

  • Vadim angel

    Vadim

    777 516 471

    7 years ago

    If so, than a half of KAWS figures would be "customs", because he uses well-known characters and adds to them his trademark bones and Xs.

    In my opinion, custom is a figure which is altered in some way – painted upon, form modified, but which has an original base of another figure.
    If the base sculpt is casted by artist, than it's not a custom anymore, even if the sculpt uses parts of another figure.

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    This is where we are getting close to intellectual property law and to what extent is considered a violation of it.

    KAWS creates original sculpts with the form language of famous characters he reworks, not recasting pre-made figures and adding/subtracting parts.

    Sucklord does alter his figures, he recasts them; he buys a figure, recasts it, adds a few parts and sells it as his own.

    Silicone legs, resin body with a spray cap he bought from a store. This is a "mashup" custom or is it "ART"?!

  • Vadim angel

    Vadim

    777 516 471

    7 years ago

    In my view, KAWS' original sculpts are no more "original" than Sucklord's figures.
    Seriously, how "original" are Kaws Chum (Michelin man), JPP (Japanese police Pipo), or his latest Pinocchio and Jiminy Cricket? The only alterations on these figures are his trademark X eyes/hands and skull.

    So why KAWS' figures are called originals, while Sucklord's are "mashups"?

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    KAWS may use the characters as inspiration but he is producing his own re-interpreted of that character. He draws it from scratch using the form language. If you look closely, the forms of each KAWS character changes from the original beyond the X eyes/hands and skull. Especially the sculpts.

    I am not a fan of KAWS but they are re-interpretations of the original characters.

    If Sucklord was drawing his creations, creating his OWN sculpts, then it would be original "re-imaginations" works. But Sucklord takes a figure, sticks it in a box and makes a mould then reproduces it.

    I also love Sucklords work.

    In your opinion "If the base sculpt is casted by artist, than it's not a custom anymore"

    So I can take any figure, recast it and sell them under my own label I would be producing original figures?

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    Before things get a bit too blurred, I consider anything a custom if it uses another figure as a platform, even if its recasting parts from it.

    Not re-designing a character and produce an original sculpt.

  • Vadim angel

    Vadim

    777 516 471

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    Intellectual property law is VERY tricky in regards to "art"

    Everything does change when its considered to have iconic cultural significance but Sucklord bootlegs, plain and simple, its what he does. He directly takes the parts and re-produces it, he can be charged with bootlegging.

    Sucklord is fun and cheeky, I love it!

    Main point:

    KAWS creates original sculpts, he doesn't use another sculpt/toy as a platform. Therefore, not customising a toy.

    Sucklord uses other sculpts, he doesn't create an original sculpt. Therefore, customising a toy.

    In the end I think the custom section on Rotocasted should be used for individuals to showcase their own custom versions that they have made for themselves (or others). This would also go really well with the multiple copies/collection picture section if added. (I gather it is sill in the works?)

    If an individual has produced "customs" to sell as "art" then it shouldn't be in the custom section and considered "self produced".

  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    7 years ago

    Ooops looks like I started a debate and then slept through it.

    I just thought it was a custom as it was a vintage r2d2 body with a spray cap stuck to it's head.

    Is it weird that someone else has this in their collection, I was under the impression that every one the suck lord made was a different colour way.

  • Chauskoskis

    Chauskoskis

    8 15 12

    7 years ago

    @CoMus Kaws original sculpts? i disagree a bit, in a big part of Kaws work he take the body of already existing characters, (is not a custom agree,) but original works? not too sure.. he re-sculpt them, yes, but i mean, if Sucklord instead of re-produce and make molds of existing pieces, he re- sculpt em to make it looks exactly the same as the original and add a bone in the head then you may think different ?...

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    I was only trying to define the distinction of what a "custom" is, not the originality of the character design. Original sculpts only refers to competently creating a new sculpt.

    Yet his designs are still different from the original character designs. You can see this on the two comparative pictures vadimt linked above. He picks up on all the important features and it looks the same but his drawings/sculpts are not 100% of the original character. Very very close! They are copies but are not traced/cloned.

    I am not saying Kaws designs are original either. Its pop art and its not my thing at all.

  • lordsketch angel

    lordsketch

    378 1072 1431

    7 years ago

    I don't think this is a custom and I don't think Kaws' work is a custom.
    Like CoMus says- it's pop art. Did Andy Warhol "customise" the Marilyn Monroe photo?

    I think the sucklord's use of "bootleg" is in part directly to bypass and subvert these definitions.
    maybe we should accept that not all works of art fall neatly into our categories :)

  • CoMus angel

    CoMus

    171 468 619

    7 years ago

    LOL gotta love that last Line :P Collectors OCD wont stand for this!

  • jazzydan angel

    jazzydan

    497 645 2539

    4 years ago

    Should be resin not vinyl, so many tags in this library have been changed! I'll change back.

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