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14 years ago
Young Caleb — http://rotocasted.com/toy/1240/
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14 years ago
NEED!!! I heard that there will be quite a few variants of this guy!
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Tons of t-shirt variations, I guess.
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14 years ago
awesome!! I may be tempted by this guy!
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14 years ago
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14 years ago
Hey thanks for posting that link so quickly! There's going to be SEVEN t-shirt versions is the rumor...
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Added all four. Cheers for digging them.
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14 years ago
Superb!!
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angel
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381 1089 1433
14 years ago
Love it!
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14 years ago
more more :P http://amostoys.blogspot.com/...
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14 years ago
When?
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14 years ago
November :) http://amostoys.blogspot.com/...
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14 years ago
I added amos toys and neonmonster blogs to http://figures.collected.info/ where you can also see all new posts to the rotocasted library...
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14 years ago
Bookmarked, goodwork, thanks :)
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13 years ago
Completely hilarious "toy". Want!
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14 years ago
if they are due next year, maybe year should be 2011? :)
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18 9 294
14 years ago
doc18: it's the golden ticket from the 2010 series.
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18 9 294
14 years ago
One just sold for £98 on ebay. Which means this one will most likely stay in my wishlist forever. :)
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14 years ago
The price will drop over time. I'm holding out for the mustard to hit a decent price.
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14 years ago
Wouldn't the "golden ticket" just be like a pre-order for when they get released. So the release year is '11?
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18 9 294
14 years ago
Fixed.
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13 years ago
Isn't March 2011 supposed to be when we get our emails for this bad boy?
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255 8 2
13 years ago
mine came in a few days ago...
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13 years ago
I didn't even get an email?
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13 years ago
Any one in the UK get any feedback on there Golden Ticket registration yet?
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255 8 2
13 years ago
I didn't get an email either. It just showed up at my house.
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13 years ago
Odd, I got this message back when I registered my ticket....
"Congratulations on finding an elusive Dunny series 2010 Golden Ticket!
You have successfully submitted your claim for a super-rare and mega-awesome Sket One 3-inch Dunny, to be released in April 2011!
PLEASE NOTE - there is still one last step to collect your prize: Kidrobot will contact you at this email address in March 2011 to re-confirm your shipping details and collect payment for the shipping fees.
If we are unable contact you to finalize your redemption, we cannot send your Golden Ticket Dunny - please keep this email to follow-up in April 2011 if you do not hear back.
Thank you for loving Dunnys, we are excited to send you this ultra-cool addition to your collection soon!!" -
13 years ago
a kidrobot representative posted this on kidrobot forum:
"Hey everyone,
All Golden Ticket orders are in process and will be shipped in the next couple weeks. All shipping costs have been covered by us however any customs, duties or tax fees will be the responsibility of the recipient.
Thanks for hanging in there. We appreciate your patience. Any further questions please contact customerservice@kidrobot.com." -
13 years ago
Thanks Amavevera, as usual your a star!!
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13 years ago
*This* is the golden ticket dunny? I can't wait :D
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208 64 33
13 years ago
Huzzah!! Arrived today!
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13 years ago
Excellent. Doc's arrived yesterday. Sounds like the UK ones are starting to arrive. Hopefully mine will be here soon :)
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13 years ago
He's here! I finally have a full set of condiments!
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13 years ago
I confess I just don't get these condiment dunnies...
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10 183 628
12 years ago
not to nit pick, but shouldnt the color read "Mayonnaise" and not yellow...? ;)
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280 25 634
12 years ago
No as even mayo has a colour to it.
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10 183 628
12 years ago
i do see the yellow in it, but if someone described this to me and said its yellow and i had never seen it before i would actually imagine this in my head as big bird or school bus yellow, but with a mayo label on his head.. now, if you say its mayo colored, then there is no confusion there, mayo is (usually) the same color.
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12 years ago
... now i feel like the color police...
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12 years ago
This is yellow, period. Mayo is not a color, just like ketchup or relish aren't.
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8 years ago
Have one for trade 8 any one needs it
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angel
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381 1089 1433
14 years ago
Sporg, Sporg, Sporg, Sporg! :D
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14 years ago
I am not sure what you will get if you ask for "sporg" instead of "sprog"? :P
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angel
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381 1089 1433
14 years ago
Sprog! Sprog! Sprog! :-P
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280 124 209
14 years ago
Whoa! That is one crusty lookin' guy! Awesome!
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388 689 743
14 years ago
As Jon Knox is the man behind Hello, Brute, should the artists name be changed so they're all in the same grouping like the 'Matt JOnes/ Lunartik' thing?
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14 years ago
good idea :)
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Done.
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13 years ago
Gone
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13 years ago
ADB you selling all your stuff to get something big n exciting?
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13 years ago
Not really MrQ
I've start a big clean up in my collection,i'm little tired right now about that game =(
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381 1089 1433
13 years ago
seems ADB is focusing on Kaiju :P
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angel
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804 2515 1650
14 years ago
Toy of the year.
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14 years ago
gimme gimme gimme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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14 years ago
seen the toy: I want this toy.
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28 114 32
14 years ago
please explain to me what is so great about this piece?
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14 years ago
I guess because its a new toy released by Amanda and people enjoy her work.
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14 years ago
and it is handmade and IP toys are popular too.
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14 years ago
I like both Amanda Visell and Itokin Park's cute styles, so combining the 2 is a win for me :)
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14 years ago
Worth the price. If you're a fan of Itokin Park and his resin work, then you will understand. I was fortunate to get one and it's truly amazing in person. And a lot bigger than I thought it was. If you find one, get it.
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14 years ago
This piece grew on me but I had no idea what the price was, just googled. Woah $450! I would love to hold one and play with it :D but not at that price.
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14 years ago
Yeah, the price point is completely understandable for this release. I really want it now LOL
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14 years ago
An establish artist customized an existing toy figure with bespoke details, some putty/sculpey work and great painting. He/She charges $100-$200 on top of the figure, sometimes even more, for his/her effort. If it is a popular platform and popular artist, e.g. Sket-one, it goes up to $500+.
This you have two established artists, designed, sculpted, hand-cast resin & hand-painted them. The pricing is high but I think it is fair for their time & efforts.
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14 years ago
It is good that the two artists do have mess-produced figures via Kidrobot/Super7/self catering for most collectors :)
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381 1089 1433
14 years ago
my problem is not in value, because it's mostly a moot point - nothing has a set value or price, it's all about standards and conventions.
My problem is that I don't want to see the entire scene prices start escalating, something that could very well happen as artists gain more and more recognition.
I've said it before, one of the special wonderful things about this form is it's widespread affordability. once the prices go up and up it will just get sucked into the regular market of the "art world" and will loose a lot of what makes it special - an art form for the public, for the fans. -
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I don't think this toy is an indication that the scene is going to price itself out of the reaches of its current supporters. As I said the artists have toys at different price levels, so their fans can afford them.
I don't see that why an artist can't exist in both "art world" and this scene (I am not sure how to distinguish the different art scenes, I've used those terms only for the context of this conversation)? If they do and I am glad that they apply their artworks on mess-produced figures every now and then, so they can afford to live and don't care if the toys make enough money.
I am also happy that some of them have turned into toy markers e.g. Mr & Mrs Horvath of Uglydolls. I've always wanted Uglydog vinyl figures and I can now buy them as open edition window-boxed figures at a couple of bucks.
I think you have a bigger problem with limited edition toys, especially blind boxed series. It encourages non-collectors to buy them and to sell at an inflated price. This makes collectors to think that they have to sell a rarer piece at the inflated price level as well to fellow collectors!? I certainly am guilty of it. -
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804 2515 1650
13 years ago
We need to fill the size. How big is it?
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13 years ago
Thanks! : ) So curious...
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13 years ago
The bed's length is approx. 6 1/2 inches and height is approx. 6 3/4 inches. The figure that is in the bed is 5 inches.
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246 491 10
14 years ago
I'm also hunting for one of these or any of the other designs and no luck :(
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532 11 12
14 years ago
one up and fewmany have them :)
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246 491 10
14 years ago
Anyone knows if fewmany ships to the USA? love the site but everything is in Japanese and the shopping cart is confusing x-x
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14 years ago
I bought it in Japan. The Japanese webs, usually, does not send toys to other places
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14 years ago
Fewmany do sell via a virtual store based in the UK, but shipped directly from Japan. It doesn't have everything in their Tokyo store but better than nothing ;)
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246 491 10
14 years ago
Thanks! gonna check them out ^_^
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14 years ago
oh go on and rip open them packaging!!! ;) unless you bought it to sell? :P
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14 years ago
But he might get that sweet looking orange jacket dirty!
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289 1213 24
14 years ago
Unfortunately, I didn't. But this is the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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70 129 1
13 years ago
dayummmm! been looking high and low for one of this!
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145 111 34
13 years ago
Really want this guy... anybody that has one interested in a trade?
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13 years ago
@ special let me know what you want to trade
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145 111 34
13 years ago
Shallow- you got anything you're interested in, specifically?
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145 111 34
12 years ago
Does anyone have this for sale?
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14 years ago
Is this still a custom when it was released by the guy who designed it? Wouldn't it just be a variant?
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77 109 46
14 years ago
he produced several of them so it's a small run not a custom IMO
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14 years ago
I presumed it was a custom as it was made for the TAG Red Carpet Kaiju Show. and surely a designer can release a custom version of their own toy? I currently have James Jarvis customising one of his tattoo me Keith toys for me.
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14 years ago
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14 years ago
O.k makes sense. I'll take it out of the custom :)
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14 years ago
Its fun to talk about each individual piece that people question if its a custom or not but it would be good to have a clear cataloguing definition. So just putting it out there:
For catalogue reasons, "custom" should be left for pieces made by other designers/artists in a non official manner (official being official collaborations/original artist works)
Even if its a one off variant/colourway/design done officially, Its still not a catalogue "custom"
Catalogue wise, official shows get tricky as esentually the original artists/designer is asking other artists/designers to collaborate with them for a show.
So there may need to be another definition where if a toy is used for the platform, such as sketchbot 2 show, it should be "custom"
Yet if the show has individual pieces, such as red kaiju, even if its just a one off, its not "custom" (if made original artist/designer.)
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I think this toy is filthy!
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14 years ago
Heh I agree jazzy :P not only that, Carlos has done some other really cool and insane designs! I would rather him do variants of them.
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14 years ago
LOL it seems he only prefers the female organ.
This is what I would like to see more of:
http://www.toyartgallery.com/wp-content/gallery/carlos-enriquez-gonzalez/cegonzalesbelzor023.jpg
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14 years ago
Maybe he will do boobs, then Doc will buy it ;)
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14 years ago
did someone say boobies? can't wait for my Tomorrow Queens :P
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14 years ago
Men are weird.
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14 years ago
I still believe that an artist can release a custom of their own toy. If you look at artists website such as mark nagatas max toy for example, then they have sections named "customs" which contain one of a kind paint jobs of their own toys.
Also I agree with idea that a custom can have more than one
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Yeah, in a previous toys wall I mentioned how mark refers to his releases as customs. Where you draw the line is interesting :)
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14 years ago
Is there an option to click on "I do NOT want this toy" ?
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14 years ago
Where do you display something like this?
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14 years ago
Bedroom! Hello ladies!
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388 689 743
14 years ago
Might work in a lesbian's bedroom... ?
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14 years ago
I have just seen this on the TAG store. And it is listed under the custom toys section? Not in the designer section?
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14 years ago
They would have tagged as a custom because it was part of the 'red carpet kaiju show' yet the toy itself was produced by TAG and I am sure we we will see it beyond the show.
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14 years ago
"Darling, this is my toy collection - these are Dunnys, they'e cute, right? that's Kaiju, it's japanese for "monster", over here are my 12" Hong Kong figures, and this is my giant monster vagina"
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I don't know... she might have a nasty collection of her own:P
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14 years ago
HEYO
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14 years ago
but the Red/Gold Mini Jumping Brain - Emilio Garcia, was also part of the 'red carpet kaiju show' yet this is in the designer toy section?
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14 years ago
Who knows, its easy to tick boxes incorrectly. Also they may also have no clear definition and more than one person inputting in the entries.
What is your own definition? It's easy to find contradictions on almost every artists website, I wouldn't use any artists websites as a definite answer to what is considered a custom, especially for cataloguing on rotocasted.
The following is what I believe should be used for the definition of what a "custom" is in Rotocasted catalogue:
To me, a "custom" is when an artist/designer is using another toy as a platform, even if its recasting parts in a non official manner.
If the original artist/designer uses their own toy, its a called a variation.
If the original artist/designer is commissioned by someone to make something exclusive for them, it's a "Commission piece" where you can specify the person that commissioned the piece as the producer.
If the original artists/designer allows another artist/designer to use their toy as a platform in an official manner its a collaboration. ( (name) x (name) is the commonly used naming)
As mentioned above in my first post, exhibitions get tricky and needs its own definition:
If the exhibition uses a toy as a platform, where only one figure is used by every artist, such as sketchbot 2 show, it should be "custom"
If the exhibition has individual pieces, such as red carpet kaiju, even if its just a one off, its not "custom" (if made original artist/designer or a collaboration) but "(exhibition name) variant"
If the artists/designer uses another artists/designers character design in an official manner, its a "collaboration" (Name x Name)
If the artists/designer uses another artists/designers character design in a non official manner, without using another toy as a platform. Its not a "custom" but its own piece.
If the artists/designer uses another artists/designers character design in a non official manner, using their own toy as a platform. Its not a "custom" but a "(name of their toy used) (name of other character) variant"
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@CoMus This is one awesome checklist.
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Sounds like a good idea. I will reformat it and make it a bit more comprehensive. (I will email it to you)
I will do it tomorrow some time.
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14 years ago
I just saw this. @CoMus, these are really good clarifiers!
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:D Cheers guys, positive response is appreciated. The list evolved in my mind through various conversations on Rotocasted. Fun community here :)
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So are you suggesting Rotocasted extend their menu categorizing system from toy library and Custom to:
Toy library (regular editions)
Variations
“Show” variants
Commission pieces
Collaborations
And Customs.
This seems excessive? Should we include bootlegs? Artist proofs? Prototypes?
This would work if you have just one library, and the toy specs/tags are categorized with your definitions. But having menu sub category's help navigation.
Or are you suggesting the custom section has a sub menu of variations, commissions, collaborations etc? Which will mean they are custom types?
How do you foresee rotocasted implementing your definitions?
My definition of a custom toy is unclear, hence my input into this discussion. If I look at the universal definition of custom, then I would say it is to put your own personal stamp, modification onto an existing object. You have made it personal to you.
So indeed I agree taking another artists toy with permission as a platform, and putting your own customization onto that toy is a collaboration. But surly it’s a custom collaboration? You have changed/modified the toy to your own taste?
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14 years ago
No need to add all of the possible variants to the interface. This list is needed to have a set of basic rules for adding toy to the library or custom section, because almost every self-produced toy opening a debate is it custom or not.
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So the toys will still go in the custom section? As custom AP, custom collaboration, custom show variants etc? then they are custom types.
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14 years ago
Sure. And I think we don't need special tagging group to sort all of the Custom Artist Proofs or Collaborations form the rest of the customs. We have plenty of ways to display that.
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So back to my original point. If the original artist/designer produces a one of a kind version of their own toy, I agree it is a variation. But the fact they have taken something and personalized it either with paint and or modification, then it’s a custom variation? And should be placed in the custom section.
What about this toy? Is it a "Commission piece" as it was commissioned by TAG? Is it a “Variant” as it can be seen as a variant / modification of Carlos’s Vagina brain monster? Is it a “red carpet kaiju” variant? As it was in the red carpet kaiju show?
how can we agree that commissions, variants and show variants are not custom?
If you commission something it is custom for you. If an artist produces a one of a kind hand painted variation for an exhibition, its custom painted by the artist.
I do not agree that none of the toys at the red carpet kaiju show were custom.
“Toy Art Gallery is proud to present its newest group show, Red Carpet Kaiju. TAG will debut Gonzalez’ controversial “Hierophany” toy, and has invited some of the best monster and kaiju-inspired artists from around the world to showcase their unique visions and talents within this strange and wonderful sub-genre of art toys. Their work spans from production toys and hand-painted customs to unique sculptures made from a variety of mediums.”
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amen brother lee, glad we got to the bottom of that one. I would say that if an artist states his or her work as custom everything beyond that is pure conjecture left for the collector.
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(I apologise that I do repeat myself a few times but I felt it was necessary to respond to various points lee made)
There is no need to make sub categories. I just wanted a list so people can clearly put into rotocasteds custom/non-custom library.
Its just one simple question:
"Is this toy using another artists/designers toy in a non official manner and/or made for an exhibition where only one figure is used by every artist? "
If you answer no, it shouldn't be in the custom library.
Once again; in the list, there is only two ways something can be considered to be a custom:
- a "custom" is when an artist/designer is using another toy as a platform, even if its recasting parts in a non official manner.
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- If the exhibition uses a toy as a platform, where only one figure is used by every artist, such as sketchbot 2 show, it should be "custom"
Everything else is not a custom and should be separated from the custom library and just put into the main library. (The type tag may be adjusted but "Designer toy" is good enough)
@lee
- "the fact they have taken something and personalized it either with paint and or modification, then it’s a custom variation? And should be placed in the custom section. "
Only custom if they used someone elses toy in a non official manner. Its just a "variation" if they used their own toy, not a "custom variation"
- "What about this toy? .....
how can we agree that commissions, variants and show variants are not custom?"
It can talked about in all of those categories but it wouldn't make this a custom piece as this toy is not using another artists/designers toy in a non official manner and/or made for an exhibition where only one figure is used by every artist.
- "I do not agree that none of the toys at the red carpet kaiju show were custom. "
I never said that but I guess the point should have been clearer.
(from list) - If the exhibition has individual pieces, such as red carpet kaiju, even if its just a one off, its not "custom" (if made original artist/designer or a collaboration) but "(exhibition name) variant"
That does need to be formatted to be clearer. "if made by original artist/designer or a collaboration" brings it back to the original question asking if it is custom or not.
Osiris Orion had a whole bunch of customs there, he used another artists/desginers toy in a non official way. His work is pimp and I love it.
@fliphappy Agree, hopefully this list will simply separate what is considered a custom on rotocasted.
The word 'custom' can be open to various interpretations, especially when you start using the word 'customisation'. I tried to make my list a clear cut answer as to avoid talks about if its a custom or not. -
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o.k. This is getting nowhere. If your going to condense your opinion to just one simple question:
"Is this toy using another artists/designers toy in a non official manner and/or made for an exhibition where only one figure is used by every artist? "
"If you answer no, it shouldn't be in the custom library."
If rotocasted want to use your limited categorization then so be it. I am going to listen to the wider audience who in my opinion are in a better position to define what is custom and what is not.
I agree this may not be a custom toy, hence i put it in the designer toy section. My issue is when it comes to an artists own custom variant, which you are so keen to dismiss.For example:
Vinyl pulse has numerous links to artist’s own custom variations. This link makes my point clearer.
“So many amazing shows coming up in the next couple months. This here is Paul Kaiju’s Custom Boss Carrion for the Red Carpet Kaiju show at Toy Art Gallery. What better figure to customize than your own. Paul always does such amazing detail work, as you can see on the Boss Carrion. The show takes place on Saturday, September 4th from 7-11PM.”
http://www.vinylpulse.com/2010/08/paul-kaiju-for-red-carpet-kaiju-0904.html
“What better figure to customize than your own” says it all for me. And notice how customize is also linked to custom.
Or what about my plastic heart who are selling Kathie Olivas Custom variants of her red bird:
“custom vinyl toys revolving around her post-apocalyptic themed group of cute but tainted characters.”
http://www.myplasticheart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MPH&Category_Code=0000UNINVITEDGUESTS&sort=name.asc
As for someone like Mark Nagata, well to many links to custom eyezons to mention. How about a bit of Ron English?
“Ron English, master of billboard popaganda, created roughly 40 hand-customized SupersizeMe figures”
http://www.vinylpulse.com/nycc_07/
And there are many more!
I cant see how major sites like vinyl pulse, artists and gallery's are getting this wrong? Anyway as @fliphappy says this is not life or death. I value your opinion, as I value anyone’s opinion. But I am not convinced your opinion is valid. So lets agree to disagree. And on that note I am also getting off the soap box. Adios! -
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angel
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14 years ago
Artists, other resources or anyone else might call it whatever they want. This website run by community and agreement on the terms is the corner stone of our efforts.
The reason of discussing the terminology is simple, separate one kind of toys from another by stylistic contexts with simple reason, clear library organization and consistency.
That's why we mark designer toys only as "designer toys", not as des figurines à des adultes, Urban Vinyl, Sculpture multiples, artist vinyl, etc.
I appreciate all of the comments, but if you don't really care why bother? Everybody is wrong on the internets.
What we do here is amateur art history exercise, so here's some further reading — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
This piece, to me, is a variant or commission, call it wherever you want and put to the general Library, not custom.
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14 years ago
Let's call it a Designer toy and leave it at that. If there's more than one it should be a FHP or HP. Tired of these emails haha
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14 years ago
@Lee I agree with you that you can call them all "customs", I even mentioned previously about Mark Nagata and have said that the "custom" have multiple interpretations.
It still seems you don't understand what I am trying to write up. You are only referring to other websites and not realising why we need to separate custom/non-custom on rotocasteds library, its only about cataloguing reasons.
The list is just for a line in the dirt to determine what is considered a custom in the library. Its not limiting the categorisation; its expanding it. As you previously mentioned about this piece, you can have multiple categories for a single figure.
The custom section on the library separates the people that "custom" other peoples works from the people that release their own "original" works (This isn't referring to the originality of their works.).
If the artists/designer owns the property that they are "customising", it should be considered a "variant". Especially considering production painters are getting into the game now and can "custom" paint a huge batch. How many figures do you release before its not a "custom" ?? You can't say 1 as there are lots of artists/designers that release "original" 1 of 1 pieces or small batches. It doesn't have a clear cut line.
The word "Variant" can be used in all the mentioned websites you linked. "Variant" is exactly the same as "custom" but its trying to separate it for catalogue reasons on rotocasted. Other websites can easily jump around with jargon but this is just a cataloguing website.
There is no standard terminology, there never will be. Referencing other websites you will always find contradictions as there is no standard jargon. You can call it a "custom" with good reason with almost any toy release; at what point do you draw the line? That is the reasoning of the clear cut list.
@Shradical7 I just wanted to say hello, how is it going? Its a nice day here, which is good!!! It has been raining too much lately :( (this is so you can feel like you are getting something out of the email notification) -
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14 years ago
guys, there are two purposes for this discussion -
one is philosophical, and this one can and should go on and on.
The other is to make the lives of Rotocasted webmasters easier, and for that we need a clear and definitive list :)
that list will not be the ultimate truth, just the way we tag things here at Rotocasted
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14 years ago
That right :) ..... also we want to keep this image on the main page to make everyone feel uneasy :P
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14 years ago
@CoMus - it's working. I'm fed up of seeing this sparkly plastic vagina in the comments feed.
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angel
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13 years ago
just keeping it balanced on the front page...
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angel
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13 years ago
Eew!
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angel
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13 years ago
Jan, in Israel we have a saying parents say to their kids - "you don't say yuk about food"
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13 years ago
It's a bit red, does it have very bad thrush?
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13 years ago
Had a bit too much winkie and now a bit red from exhaustion? Oh my.
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11 years ago
does this vibrate?
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9 years ago
To answer your question this toy does not vibrate however it always seems to cause a buzz when talked about
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angel
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14 years ago
Do we need fake toys here?
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14 years ago
LOL interesting! Maybe it is useful to help people not to be fooled by bootleg figures? :P
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angel
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14 years ago
Let's make the Fake section then, this section might be huge :)
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14 years ago
Bootlegs are not good for anyone. :(
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14 years ago
I think bootlegs are great for everyone (who isn't bothered about having the original!). Bootlegs that are a parody of the original piece are cool IMO, bootlegs trying to pretend to be the originals are a different kettle of fish.
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14 years ago
I have previously mentioned I don't like KAWS and I am not going to talk about KAWS as everyone has their own opinion about how original his creations are (I do consider them to be over priced pop art fyi)
Bootlegging devalues everything for everyone. Justifying it's fine just because the original one is expensive or the artist has "sold out" doesn't make it valid.
- Someone is making money off of someone's work.
- Devalues the brand/design, (which is the WORST thing) by having it in all these dodgy bootleg stores/flooding the market/low quality/consumers not understanding the product. NOT only for KAWS but for all designer toys.
- Someone may potentially be fooled. (Bootleg companies don't give a shit about their market) Just because you are "in the know" and it seems VERY clear its a bootleg, not everyone will.
- Official prices rise (this is a common practice by official companies to set the bootlegers clearly apart for consumer) This may also sets a price range for other designer toys.
Official re-productions are fine, just like posters of artwork. Yet most paintings are in the public domain anyway. Then again, paintings are a poor example as its not like someone is re-producing the brush strokes.
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I don't know how you can say I am missing the point? I said bootlegs are not good for anyone and you voiced other opinions, so I explained my stance. Devaluing through residual effects is very damaging.
To say that everyone knows the price point is a bit off. I first saw KAWS in a music mag, many people buy various culture mags on a whim. People truly do not know the market price of various toys. People still are shocked at the designer toys around the 50-80 mark, they wouldn't expect something to be much more than that for a KAWS piece.
People do not instantly understand the designer toy market; pricing and what artist is what. People are coming in from all directions and can easily be mislead.
I am sure you have friends that don't collect but have found some of your pieces really cool without knowing the price point, official packaging or where to get it from. Or friends that are shocked when you say "you might not want to drop that as it cost $200"
I am talking about bootlegs as a generalisation, it affects any market it touches. Companies pushing up market price point to distinguish it isn't a bootleg, is a common marketing strategy in other production fields.
A company can still be affected by the residual effect of bootlegs, even if they are not making direct profit off of the limited release they did. They release the next variant and people don't buy it as they have already purchased the previous bootlegged version for example or they don't buy their products any more as they want a level of exclusivity.
I agree with your stance on KR and their "limited' runs, yet its not a reason to bootleg them.
Bootlegs are not good for anyone as the residual effects affect the designer toy market as a whole.
- A legit store trying to sell official products can't compete vs the bootleg store down the street.
Stores selling bootlegs may not know who designed them and/or know they are "designer toys". They would have just ordered them from one of their suppliers thinking it was cool and not have known it was a bootleg.
- Suppliers don't sit back for hours doing research, they may be dealing with a whole seller that deals 10% in bootlegs without knowing it. Something slips through the cracks to store fronts with the belief that it is legit.
- It won't stop at KAWS (and hasn't) for bootlegging and will continue on.
- Bootlegs can get VERY close to the original and almost perfect quality. This can be easily witnessed with the bootleg anime toy scene.
Bootleg suppliers have a HUGE market share in various places around the world. Even my small little china town is filled with various bootleg products of toys the general consumer wouldn't know was a "designer" piece. A bootleg manufacture might come across Uamou design take it up and flood the market with it.
If someone buys a bootleg knowing it is a bootleg for the mentioned reasons above, good for them if they are happy. Yet it isn't good for the market at all and to believe otherwise is part of the problem with bootlegging. -
14 years ago
Catch you next time <3
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14 years ago
Nice you can see it but I know a lot of people who would mistake them for the original,good to know and identify the fakes and the authentic figures
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14 years ago
What are the identifiers on this piece to know its not original?
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14 years ago
They look cheap to me. The biggest difference between these and the real thing is that these are at least 5 or 6 inches shorter than the genuine Companions. It's not too difficult to spot that difference. Plus they look very shiny. The original Companions are matte.
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13 years ago
I don't really like the Kaws figures, but I would love to own something like this simply because it's a fake of something really exclusive. I think I may want it more than an original :)
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13 years ago
I now have these, but with matte surface. They're really nice
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13 years ago
The matte finish is actually fake.
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11 years ago
I think these are funny. I'd buy buy it just to put next to the original with his hand resting on his head.
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11 years ago
WTF is this doing here? This is NOT a bootleg, it's counterfeit, shouldn't even be listed here.
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jeremyriad
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14 years ago
I wonder why Amos Toys blog pulled the image on this one? Not going to release it? Or just wanted to prolong the surprise? I'm excited about these. Hope we get to see them first because STRANGEco is in San Francisco :)
doc18
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14 years ago
did you see any mini King Ken S2 chase? :)
jeremyriad
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14 years ago
No! I didn't even realize mini King Kens had gone on sale. Link me to your pic?
doc18
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14 years ago
Credit to another SF's finest, Double Punch :) here is a pic for you http://twitpic.com/2swz2l